Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Palestinians do not want peace despite continuous Israeli efforts. They want Israel destroyed and Jews dead


as Charles Krauthammer, wrote last week: There would be no peace and no Palestinian state if Isaac Herzog were prime minister either. Or Ehud Barak or Ehud Olmert for that matter. The latter two were (non-Likud) prime ministers who offered the Palestinians their own state — with its capital in Jerusalem and every Israeli settlement in the new Palestine uprooted — only to be rudely rejected. This is not ancient history. This is 2000, 2001, and 2008 — three astonishingly concessionary peace offers within the past 15 years. Every one rejected.

Commentary mag online. Tobin 3/19/15

The left lies and claims israel has not taken risks for peace
First, to claim that Israel has not taken repeated risks for peace in the last two decades is an assertion of such astonishing mendacity that it makes it difficult to treat the rest of Beinart’s argument seriously or to give him credit, as I would prefer to do, for having good intentions. The last several governments of Israel have made repeated territorial withdrawals (including a couple made by one led by Netanyahu during his first term as prime minister), allowing the creation and the empowerment of the Palestinian Authority and then withdrawing every last soldier, settler and settlement from Gaza in 2005. But these gestures not only didn’t help bring peace, they resulted in the creation of terror bases from which Palestinians have launched suicide bombers and rockets at Israel’s cities. Israel trade land for peace and only got terror.
Israel’s governments have also repeatedly offered the Palestinians statehood and independence in virtually all of the West Bank, Gaza and a share of Jerusalem only to be turned down in 2000, 2001 and 2008. Even under the last government Israel tried to negotiate peace with the Palestinians and even Tzipi Livni, one of Netanyahu’s leading opponents in the election, verified that it was the Palestinians that blew up the talks. That was made even clearer by the documents that were recently revealed showing Netanyahu had gone further than anyone had known in accommodating the Obama administration’s demands in the talks (something that proved an embarrassment for the prime minister during the campaign).
Just as false is Beinart’s claim that the election was not fought in the shadow of terror. I know seven months is a long time in journalism but are we really supposed to have already forgotten last summer’s 50-day war in which Hamas rained down thousands of rockets on Israeli cities and sent terrorists through tunnels into the Jewish state hoping to kill and kidnap as many Jews as possible? Apparently Beinart has forgotten it. But Israel’s voters have not. When Netanyahu spoke of his unwillingness to let the West Bank become another Hamasistan, he may have sneered but Israelis know all too well this is a possibility. They also regard the rise of ISIS and the way Hezbollah operates freely in Syria as well as Lebanon as a deadly threat. Not to mention the fact that the overwhelming majority of Israelis agree with the prime minister (including Herzog and his party) about the Iranian nuclear threat and the foolishness of the Obama administration’s attempt to appease Tehran.
Last, his belief that Obama has been soft on Israel is just as absurd. For six years (with only a respite provided by his 2012 re-election campaign Jewish charm offensive), the president has picked endless and ultimately pointless fights with Israel over settlements and especially Jerusalem. He’s tilted the diplomatic playing field in the Palestinians direction on territory and the status of Israel’s capital. Even worse, the administration not only unfairly criticized Israel during last summer’s Gaza war but also ordered a cutoff of the flow of arms resupply during the fighting.
It’s true he could have gone further and ruptured the alliance completely or joined the efforts of Europeans to isolate Israel at the United Nations, measures that Beinart is urging him to take now. But even Obama understood that to do so was not only politically unpopular but bad policy since it would undermine U.S. influence as much as it would hurt Israel.
Thus the entire premise of Beinart’s argument is false. Israel has taken repeated risks for peace and it does still live under the shadow of terror. And it has no credible partner for peace since the Palestinian Authority still refuses to recognize the legitimacy of a Jewish state no matter where its borders are drawn or renounce the right of return for the descendants of the 1948 refugees."

When someone says "FREE FREE Palestine" and you have an opportunity to "dialogue", ask them if they understand 1. A Free Palestine means the end of Israel, the only Jewish state in the world because the Palestinians have shown for 65 year they will not live side by side with Israel, and the genocide of 7 million Jews. PLO was created in 1964 calling for free free Palestine when an Arab nation, Jordan, had sovereignty over the west Bank and Gaza. Obviously they intend to steal Israel's land by force. 2. Creating a new violent corrupt jihadist terrorist nation of a phony people that never existed before 1960. Just what the world needs.
3. Israel has said for decades they are fine with a Palestinian state living in peace, side by side the Jewish state but the ARABS/Muslims have shown zero interest in peace. 4. GAZA is already 100% free of Jews and instead of trying to build a country, they terrorize their own citizens and shot 10,000 missiles at civilian Israelis.
Times Of Israel today
Last year’s peace talks with the Palestinian Authority failed not because of Israeli settlement expansion, but because the Palestinians are simply not ready for peace yet, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu charged Sunday.

Speaking to the Brookings Institution’s 11th annual Saban Forum in Washington via a prerecorded video, Netanyahu said continued incitement proved Ramallah was not prepared to make peace with Israel, and layed out Israel’s three main demands of the Palestinians.
“The talks ended because the Palestinians wanted them to end,” Netanyahu said.
He charged that negotiations broke down because Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas entered a unity government with the Hamas terror group and because the Palestinians rejected the security arrangements Israel demanded.
“Unfortunately, the Palestinian leadership is simply not prepared, and I hope this changes, but it’s not yet prepared to truly confront violence and fanaticism within Palestinian society, within their own ranks,” Netanyahu added.
“For nine months we negotiated with the Palestinians, but they consistently refused to engage us on our legitimate security concerns, just as they refused to discuss recognizing Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people, while at the same time insisting that Israel recognize a nation-state of the Palestinian people.”
The prime minister accused the PA leadership of fueling violence against Israel. “It engages in incitement day in and day out,” he said. “I think it’s important to confront this. I don’t think sticking our head in the sand promotes real peace and I don’t believe that false hopes promote real peace. I think they just push peace further away.”
Real peace will only come once the Palestinians accept “the three pillars of peace,” Netanyahu said: recognition of Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people; an end to all claims, including the right of return; and a long-term Israeli security presence in the West Bank.

Palestinians leaders are barbaric terrorists with whom no one can make peace 
How can any decent person think peace with Palestinians is possible?

Liberman: Even a “deaf, blind and mute judge” knows that the Palestinians are responsible for the “indiscriminate murder of men, women, children and babies for the last 100 years. The Palestinian authority, supposedly the moderates, are equally as barbaric. Fatah are barbaric, corrupt, genocidal terrorists. This is a paradigmatic example:

a. survey asked about suicide bombing as a specific form of militant violence and found the highest support for it in the Middle East at 80% percent in Gaza and the West Bank,

b. Violently oppresses gays.

c. terrorize Christians and drive them out of their territory

d. Israel must exercise control over their borders, as EVERY sovereign nation does, or Palestinians import missiles and terror weapons to kill Jews.

e. Abbas goes before UN Sept. 2014 and says Israel committed genocide in Gaza.

f. Palestinian mom wishes all her 10 sons would be suicide bombers
g. Abbas routinely honors and praises terrorist murderers of Jews

h. Fatah, in UNITY government with Hamas, is just as bad.

 i. the kidnap and murder of the 3 boys by Hamas was widely celebrated in Palestinian 

j. Palestinian curriculum teaches 5 year olds songs about killing Jew CHILD ABUSE

k.. Saturates its education and airwaves with a demonic hatred ‎of Jews

l. They say no Jews will be allowed to live in a Palestinian state, places Jews have lived 4000 years

m. They refuse to acknowledge the right of Jews to have a Jewish state

n. Abbas’ PHD was on holocaust denial

o.. Hamas, Fatah Officials Praise Terrorist Who Killed Israeli Baby Oct 23, 2014

p. Lying Palestinians routinely deny any Jewish/ Christian links to Israel, which goes back 4000 years.

q. lying Palestinians routinely claim Jesus as Palestinian Arab, even though he was a Jew.

r. PA Glorifies Synagogue Killers as Islamic Martyrs - Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik (Palestinian Media Watch)    Posting a picture of the graves of the two terrorists who murdered 5 Israelis in a Jerusalem synagogue last month, Abbas' Fatah movement glorified them as "martyrs."    "This is the place of eternal rest of martyrs Ghassan and Uday Abu Jamal of Jabel Mukaber in occupied Jerusalem, who ascended [to heaven] a month and a half ago during an operation at an occupation synagogue in occupied Jerusalem."    On Nov. 18, 2014, the two Arab terrorists attacked worshippers with guns, knives and axes, killing 4 worshippers and a police officer, and injuring 7 more.     The Palestinian Authority's official news agency WAFA on Dec. 26 likewise honored the murderers as "martyrs."

s. FACT: The Palestinian Authority pays terrorists a monthly stipend while they're in jail and after they are released.

No Peace in Our Time - Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post)
  • Of all the idiocies uttered in reaction to Benjamin Netanyahu's stunning election victory, none is more ubiquitous than the idea that peace prospects are now dead because Netanyahu has declared that there will be no Palestinian state while he is Israel's prime minister.
  • I have news for the lowing herds: There would be no peace and no Palestinian state if Isaac Herzog were prime minister either. Or Ehud Barak or Ehud Olmert for that matter. The latter two were (non-Likud) prime ministers who offered the Palestinians their own state - with its capital in Jerusalem and every Israeli settlement in the new Palestine uprooted - only to be rudely rejected. This is not ancient history. This is 2000, 2001 and 2008.
  • The fundamental reality remains: This generation of Palestinian leadership - from Yasser Arafat to Mahmoud Abbas - has never and will never sign its name to a final peace settlement dividing the land with a Jewish state.
  • Today, however, there is a second reason a peace agreement is impossible: the supreme instability of the entire Middle East. Syria has al-Qaeda allies, Hizbullah fighters, government troops and even the occasional Iranian general prowling the Israeli border. In the last four years, Egypt has had two revolutions and three radically different regimes.
  • The West Bank could fall to Hamas overnight. At which point fire rains down on Tel Aviv, Ben-Gurion Airport and the entire Israeli urban heartland.
  • Peace awaits three things. Eventual Palestinian acceptance of a Jewish state. A Palestinian leader willing to sign a deal based on that premise. A modicum of regional stability that allows Israel to risk the potentially fatal withdrawals such a deal would entail. I believe such a day will come. But there is zero chance it comes now or even soon. That's essentially what Netanyahu said Thursday.



Since Fatah agreed to UNITY government with Hamas, they own whatever Hamas does. But, as I show above, on their own, Morally despicable Hamas/Palestinian society examples. It is no different than Hamas. "Hamas is like ISIS. ISIS is like Hamas. They're branches of the same tree." (Netanyahu)

Hamas is a despicable terrorist group advocating genocide

A.   Hamas, an official part of Palestinian govt. has a charter which calls for death of Jews  and destruction of Israel WARCRIME

B.    Hamas Palestinians use human shields to encourage civilian casualties and shoot missiles from hospitals and mosques  WAR CRIME

C.    Hamas Palestinians sends thousands of missiles at indiscriminant targets aimed to kill as many Jews as possible WAR CRIMES. Every civilian death is Hamas’ fault for sending the missiles in first place. Richard Kemp, former commander of British Troops in Afghanistan and a senior military adviser to the British government, said the following: “I don’t think there has ever been a time in the history of warfare where any army has made more efforts to reduce civilian casualties and deaths of civilians than the IDF (Israeli Defence Forces) is doing today in Gaza.”

D.   Hamas Nuclear terrorism-sent missiles to Dimona to try and strike nuclear facility WAR CRIMES

E.    Hamas WARCRIME wears Israeli uniforms to try and terrorize and kill

F.    Hamas uses animals to suicide detonate bombs ANIMAL ABUSE

G.   Tortures and kills domestic political opponents. 18 supposed collaborators killed August 21, 2014 as exampleHas no political or religious freedom and has no freedom of ‎speech, press, or assembly, and no independent judiciary.‎

H.   Rated a 6 by Freedom House in its 2013 report on freedom ‎in the world. Seven is the worst possible rating. Hamas ranks ‎‎6 in freedom, 6 in civil liberties and 6 political rights.‎

I.     Destroy buildings and kill civilians to frame Israel. WAR CRIME

J.    Hamas terrorizes journalists into not reporting their abuses and killing or exiling any who do

K.   Hamas killed 160 of their own children building the tunnels

L.    Hamas executed the tunnel builders so they would not reveal any info

M.  Rocket Scores Direct Hit on Ashdod Synagogue

Three wounded and synagogue damaged by rocket fired from Gaza. Follows third rocket attack on kindergarten earlier Friday.

N.    Admits kidnapping and killing 3 Israeli teens



Those poor Palestinians" you might want to share the following piece with them.

This is what a guy wrote on Facebook:

Just which Palestinians are you all talking about? The Palestinians who, in 1948, fled their homes to neighboring countries when the Arab world attacked Israel and told the Palestinians they can return after Israel is destroyed?

Or the Palestinians who lived in the West Bank under Jordanian (then Transjordan) occupation and annexation when Jordan attacked Israel in 1967 and lost both the war and the West Bank to Israel?

Or the Palestinians who, while living in Jordan in the 1970s, envisioned Jordan becoming their Palestinian state and started a civil war where King Hussein ultimately killed thousands of Palestinians and forcibly removed many from of his country, making them refugees?

Or the Palestinians who entered the Olympic Village in Munich, Germany, and murdered 11 Israeli athletes?

Or the Palestinians who infiltrated a high school in Ma'alot, Israel, took 102 students hostage, injured 50 and murdered 22?

Or the Palestinians who, among others, hijacked an Air France jetliner to Entebbe, Uganda, and held hostage more than 100 Israelis?

Or the Palestinians who were exiled from Jordan to a peaceful Lebanon and started a civil war that cost more than 120,000 lives and created more refugees, with many exiled from Lebanon?

Or the Palestinians who hijacked the Achille Lauro ocean liner and shot, murdered and threw overboard Leon Klinghoffer, a 69-year-old Jewish American paraplegic in a wheelchair?

Or the Palestinians in the Abu Nidal Organization who murdered an estimated 600 Palestinians from rival factions?

Or the Palestinians who wrote and live by the Hamas Charter that states, among other things, "… Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors"?

Or the Palestinians who enticed young and susceptible Palestinians to become suicide bombers with the promise that when they murder Israelis, they'll receive rich rewards in the afterlife and financial security for their families?

Or the thousands of Palestinians in Ramallah who cheered as the bodies of two Israeli soldiers were thrown from a second story window after they were tortured and hacked to death?

Or the Palestinians who honored a suicide bomber with a military funeral for murdering 15 people (including seven children and five from one family) at the Sbarro pizza café in Jerusalem?

Or the thousands of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza captured on video cheering as two airliners purposely crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11?

Or the Palestinian families who received $25,000 from Saddam Hussein for their children's "successful" suicide bombings?

Or a Palestinian like Yasser Arafat (although he was Egyptian born), who became a billionaire by stealing money from other Palestinians as they lived in squalor?

Or the Qatari born and Egyptian-raised Omar Barghouti (who refers to himself as a Palestinian), who co-founded the boycott, divestment, and [including educational] sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel while getting his doctorate at an Israeli university?

Or the Palestinians from Hamas (a group the U.S. and other countries label a terrorist organization) who, when they took control of Gaza, shot several hundred Fatah Palestinians in the legs, purposely crippling them for life?

Or the more than 100 Palestinians from Fatah crippled by Palestinians from Hamas who, at the confidential request from Mahmoud Abbas to Shimon Peres, received new legs and rehabilitation at a medical center in Israel Or the two Palestinians who proudly confessed to the knife attack and murder of five members of the Fogel family, including the father, mother, and three of their six children, ages 11, 4 and 3 months?

Or the Palestinian mother, Raida Abu-Mustaffa, whose baby's life was saved through funding and a rare heart operation by a Jewish doctor at an Israeli hospital, yet the mother dreamed that her daughter would one day become a martyr?

Or the gay Palestinian man who, while living in Tel Aviv (considered one of the gay-friendliest cities in the world), pleaded with Israel's high court not to be deported to the West Bank because it would lead to persecution by his family and his detention, torture and death by Palestinian security forces?

Or the Palestinians in the West Bank who, in 2013, committed 27 honor killings against their wives, sisters and daughters?

Or the Palestinians who, since childhood, have been educated by books and newspapers that claim Jews are sub-human, satanic and animals, and that Israel is the root of all of their problems?

Or the Palestinians who grew up in refugee camps while Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Kuwait and Brunei became some of the wealthiest countries in world, gave virtually nothing to help the Palestinians and have purposely kept them in refugee camps as political tools since 1948?

Or the Palestinians who, for decades, promoted terrorism against Israel forcing Israel to build a security wall (that virtually ended all suicide bombings) and now call it the Apartheid Wall?

Or the Palestinians who, after Israel voluntarily withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, giving the Palestinians land and self-determination, have fired more than 11,000 rockets at Israel, killing Israelis and causing thousands of injuries?

Or the Palestinians who, since the Oslo Accords were signed in 1993, have committed thousands of terrorist acts (not including rocket attacks from Gaza), murdering 1,472 Israelis?

Or the Palestinians from Hamas who kidnapped and murdered three Jewish teenage yeshiva (Torah study) students?

Or the Palestinians who denounced Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas because he condemned the kidnapping and murder of the three Jewish teens?

Or the Palestinian mother of Abu Aysha (one of the suspected murderers of the three Israeli teens) who said if he truly did it … "I'll be proud of him till my final day. … I raised my children on the knees of the [Islamic] religion … their goal is to bring the victory of Islam"?
And you want Israel to stop the bloodshed"?

Talk about one picture being worth a THOUSAND words…


An interesting questionnaire for Palestinian AdvocatesBy Yashiko Sagamori
If you are so sure that ” Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history,” I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :
  1. When was it founded and by whom?
  2. What were its borders?
  3. What was its capital?
  4. What were its major cities?
  5. What constituted the basis of its economy?
  6. What was its form of government?
  7. Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
  8. Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
  9. What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
  10. What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
  11. What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
  12. And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
You are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of?
And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over — or thrown out of — the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?
I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day “Palestinians” to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won’t work here.
The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel ; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “the Palestinian people” and installed it in Gaza , Judea, and Samaria . How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the “West Bank” and Gaza , respectively?
The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood than that Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them. The so-called “Palestinians” have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel , and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation” — or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled.
In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East . Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in their war against Israel and, as the losing side should, pay Israel reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have visited on it. The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the land of Israel and accepting Israel ‘s ancient sovereignty over Gaza , Judea, and Samaria.
That will mark the end of the Palestinian people. What are you saying again was its beginning?

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