as Charles Krauthammer, wrote last week: There would be no peace and no Palestinian state if Isaac Herzog were prime minister either. Or Ehud Barak or Ehud Olmert for that matter. The latter two were (non-Likud) prime ministers who offered the Palestinians their own state — with its capital in Jerusalem and every Israeli settlement in the new Palestine uprooted — only to be rudely rejected. This is not ancient history. This is 2000, 2001, and 2008 — three astonishingly concessionary peace offers within the past 15 years. Every one rejected.
No Peace in Our Time - Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post)
No Peace in Our Time - Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post)
- Of all the idiocies uttered in reaction to Benjamin Netanyahu's stunning election victory, none is more ubiquitous than the idea that peace prospects are now dead because Netanyahu has declared that there will be no Palestinian state while he is Israel's prime minister.
- I have news for the lowing herds: There would be no peace and no Palestinian state if Isaac Herzog were prime minister either. Or Ehud Barak or Ehud Olmert for that matter. The latter two were (non-Likud) prime ministers who offered the Palestinians their own state - with its capital in Jerusalem and every Israeli settlement in the new Palestine uprooted - only to be rudely rejected. This is not ancient history. This is 2000, 2001 and 2008.
- The fundamental reality remains: This generation of Palestinian leadership - from Yasser Arafat to Mahmoud Abbas - has never and will never sign its name to a final peace settlement dividing the land with a Jewish state.
- Today, however, there is a second reason a peace agreement is impossible: the supreme instability of the entire Middle East. Syria has al-Qaeda allies, Hizbullah fighters, government troops and even the occasional Iranian general prowling the Israeli border. In the last four years, Egypt has had two revolutions and three radically different regimes.
- The West Bank could fall to Hamas overnight. At which point fire rains down on Tel Aviv, Ben-Gurion Airport and the entire Israeli urban heartland.
- Peace awaits three things. Eventual Palestinian acceptance of a Jewish state. A Palestinian leader willing to sign a deal based on that premise. A modicum of regional stability that allows Israel to risk the potentially fatal withdrawals such a deal would entail. I believe such a day will come. But there is zero chance it comes now or even soon. That's essentially what Netanyahu said Thursday.
- How can any decent person think peace with Palestinians is possible?Liberman: Even a “deaf, blind and mute judge” knows that the Palestinians are responsible for the “indiscriminate murder of men, women, children and babies for the last 100 years. The Palestinian authority, supposedly the moderates, are equally as barbaric. Fatah are barbaric, corrupt, genocidal terrorists. This is a paradigmatic example:http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/WATCH-Palestinian-instructional-video-on-how-to-stab-goes-viral-on-social-media-38594a. survey asked about suicide bombing as a specific form of militant violence and found the highest support for it in the Middle East at 80% percent in Gaza and the West Bank,b. Violently oppresses gays.c. terrorize Christians and drive them out of their territoryd. Israel must exercise control over their borders, as EVERY sovereign nation does, or Palestinians import missiles and terror weapons to kill Jews.e. Abbas goes before UN Sept. 2014 and says Israel committed genocide in Gaza.f. Palestinian mom wishes all her 10 sons would be suicide bombers
g. Abbas routinely honors and praises terrorist murderers of Jewsh. Fatah, in UNITY government with Hamas, is just as bad. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/183854#.U-azEJsg_cdi. the kidnap and murder of the 3 boys by Hamas was widely celebrated in Palestinianj. Palestinian curriculum teaches 5 year olds songs about killing Jew CHILD ABUSEk.. Saturates its education and airwaves with a demonic hatred of Jewsl. They say no Jews will be allowed to live in a Palestinian state, places Jews have lived 4000 yearsm. They refuse to acknowledge the right of Jews to have a Jewish staten. Abbas’ PHD was on holocaust denialo. Hamas, Fatah Officials Praise Terrorist Who Killed Israeli Baby Oct 23, 2014 http://www.investigativeproject.org/4624/hamas-fatah-officials-praise-terrorist-who-killed
p. Lying Palestinians routinely deny any Jewish/ Christian links to Israel, which goes back 4000 years.q. lying Palestinians routinely claim Jesus as Palestinian Arab, even though he was a Jew.r. PA Glorifies Synagogue Killers as Islamic Martyrs - Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik (Palestinian Media Watch) Posting a picture of the graves of the two terrorists who murdered 5 Israelis in a Jerusalem synagogue last month, Abbas' Fatah movement glorified them as "martyrs." "This is the place of eternal rest of martyrs Ghassan and Uday Abu Jamal of Jabel Mukaber in occupied Jerusalem, who ascended [to heaven] a month and a half ago during an operation at an occupation synagogue in occupied Jerusalem." On Nov. 18, 2014, the two Arab terrorists attacked worshippers with guns, knives and axes, killing 4 worshippers and a police officer, and injuring 7 more. The Palestinian Authority's official news agency WAFA on Dec. 26 likewise honored the murderers as "martyrs."s. FACT: The Palestinian Authority pays terrorists a monthly stipend while they're in jail and after they are released.Since Fatah agreed to UNITY government with Hamas, they own whatever Hamas does. But, as I show above, on their own, Morally despicable Hamas/Palestinian society examples. It is no different than Hamas. "Hamas is like ISIS. ISIS is like Hamas. They're branches of the same tree." (Netanyahu)Hamas is a despicable terrorist group advocating genocideA. Hamas, an official part of Palestinian govt. has a charter which calls for death of Jews and destruction of Israel WARCRIMEB. Hamas Palestinians use human shields to encourage civilian casualties and shoot missiles from hospitals and mosques WAR CRIMEC. Hamas Palestinians sends thousands of missiles at indiscriminant targets aimed to kill as many Jews as possible WAR CRIMES. Every civilian death is Hamas’ fault for sending the missiles in first place. Richard Kemp, former commander of British Troops in Afghanistan and a senior military adviser to the British government, said the following: “I don’t think there has ever been a time in the history of warfare where any army has made more efforts to reduce civilian casualties and deaths of civilians than the IDF (Israeli Defence Forces) is doing today in Gaza.”D. Hamas Nuclear terrorism-sent missiles to Dimona to try and strike nuclear facility WAR CRIMESE. Hamas WARCRIME wears Israeli uniforms to try and terrorize and killF. Hamas uses animals to suicide detonate bombs ANIMAL ABUSEG. Tortures and kills domestic political opponents. 18 supposed collaborators killed August 21, 2014 as exampleHas no political or religious freedom and has no freedom of speech, press, or assembly, and no independent judiciary.H. Rated a 6 by Freedom House in its 2013 report on freedom in the world. Seven is the worst possible rating. Hamas ranks 6 in freedom, 6 in civil liberties and 6 political rights.I. Destroy buildings and kill civilians to frame Israel. WAR CRIMEJ. Hamas terrorizes journalists into not reporting their abuses and killing or exiling any who doK. Hamas killed 160 of their own children building the tunnelsL. Hamas executed the tunnel builders so they would not reveal any infoM. Rocket Scores Direct Hit on Ashdod SynagogueThree wounded and synagogue damaged by rocket fired from Gaza. Follows third rocket attack on kindergarten earlier Friday.N. Admits kidnapping and killing 3 Israeli teensO. http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/vast-majority-of-gazan-arabs-support-terror-against-israel/2014/08/28/
Those poor Palestinians" you might want to share the following piece with them.This is what a guy wrote on Facebook:Just which Palestinians are you all talking about? The Palestinians who, in 1948, fled their homes to neighboring countries when the Arab world attacked Israel and told the Palestinians they can return after Israel is destroyed?Or the Palestinians who lived in the West Bank under Jordanian (then Transjordan) occupation and annexation when Jordan attacked Israel in 1967 and lost both the war and the West Bank to Israel?Or the Palestinians who, while living in Jordan in the 1970s, envisioned Jordan becoming their Palestinian state and started a civil war where King Hussein ultimately killed thousands of Palestinians and forcibly removed many from of his country, making them refugees?Or the Palestinians who entered the Olympic Village in Munich, Germany, and murdered 11 Israeli athletes?Or the Palestinians who infiltrated a high school in Ma'alot, Israel, took 102 students hostage, injured 50 and murdered 22?Or the Palestinians who, among others, hijacked an Air France jetliner to Entebbe, Uganda, and held hostage more than 100 Israelis?
Or the Palestinians who were exiled from Jordan to a peaceful Lebanon and started a civil war that cost more than 120,000 lives and created more refugees, with many exiled from Lebanon?Or the Palestinians who hijacked the Achille Lauro ocean liner and shot, murdered and threw overboard Leon Klinghoffer, a 69-year-old Jewish American paraplegic in a wheelchair?Or the Palestinians in the Abu Nidal Organization who murdered an estimated 600 Palestinians from rival factions?Or the Palestinians who wrote and live by the Hamas Charter that states, among other things, "… Israel will rise and will remain erect until Islam eliminates it as it had eliminated its predecessors"?Or the Palestinians who enticed young and susceptible Palestinians to become suicide bombers with the promise that when they murder Israelis, they'll receive rich rewards in the afterlife and financial security for their families?Or the thousands of Palestinians in Ramallah who cheered as the bodies of two Israeli soldiers were thrown from a second story window after they were tortured and hacked to death?Or the Palestinians who honored a suicide bomber with a military funeral for murdering 15 people (including seven children and five from one family) at the Sbarro pizza café in Jerusalem?Or the thousands of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza captured on video cheering as two airliners purposely crashed into the Twin Towers on 9/11?Or the Palestinian families who received $25,000 from Saddam Hussein for their children's "successful" suicide bombings?Or a Palestinian like Yasser Arafat (although he was Egyptian born), who became a billionaire by stealing money from other Palestinians as they lived in squalor?Or the Qatari born and Egyptian-raised Omar Barghouti (who refers to himself as a Palestinian), who co-founded the boycott, divestment, and [including educational] sanctions (BDS) movement against Israel while getting his doctorate at an Israeli university?Or the Palestinians from Hamas (a group the U.S. and other countries label a terrorist organization) who, when they took control of Gaza, shot several hundred Fatah Palestinians in the legs, purposely crippling them for life?Or the more than 100 Palestinians from Fatah crippled by Palestinians from Hamas who, at the confidential request from Mahmoud Abbas to Shimon Peres, received new legs and rehabilitation at a medical center in Israel Or the two Palestinians who proudly confessed to the knife attack and murder of five members of the Fogel family, including the father, mother, and three of their six children, ages 11, 4 and 3 months?Or the Palestinian mother, Raida Abu-Mustaffa, whose baby's life was saved through funding and a rare heart operation by a Jewish doctor at an Israeli hospital, yet the mother dreamed that her daughter would one day become a martyr?Or the gay Palestinian man who, while living in Tel Aviv (considered one of the gay-friendliest cities in the world), pleaded with Israel's high court not to be deported to the West Bank because it would lead to persecution by his family and his detention, torture and death by Palestinian security forces?Or the Palestinians in the West Bank who, in 2013, committed 27 honor killings against their wives, sisters and daughters?Or the Palestinians who, since childhood, have been educated by books and newspapers that claim Jews are sub-human, satanic and animals, and that Israel is the root of all of their problems?Or the Palestinians who grew up in refugee camps while Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan, Iraq, Syria, Kuwait and Brunei became some of the wealthiest countries in world, gave virtually nothing to help the Palestinians and have purposely kept them in refugee camps as political tools since 1948?Or the Palestinians who, for decades, promoted terrorism against Israel forcing Israel to build a security wall (that virtually ended all suicide bombings) and now call it the Apartheid Wall?Or the Palestinians who, after Israel voluntarily withdrew from the Gaza Strip in 2005, giving the Palestinians land and self-determination, have fired more than 11,000 rockets at Israel, killing Israelis and causing thousands of injuries?Or the Palestinians who, since the Oslo Accords were signed in 1993, have committed thousands of terrorist acts (not including rocket attacks from Gaza), murdering 1,472 Israelis?Or the Palestinians from Hamas who kidnapped and murdered three Jewish teenage yeshiva (Torah study) students?Or the Palestinians who denounced Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas because he condemned the kidnapping and murder of the three Jewish teens?Or the Palestinian mother of Abu Aysha (one of the suspected murderers of the three Israeli teens) who said if he truly did it … "I'll be proud of him till my final day. … I raised my children on the knees of the [Islamic] religion … their goal is to bring the victory of Islam"?
And you want Israel to stop the bloodshed"?· HAMAS=ISISIslam is based on violence, not 100% but largely. Today they are more subtle. The Muslim brotherhood Manual discovered disclosed they also hope to infiltrate at first peacefully, even marrying locals, getting involved in ecumenical and unrelated groups and lying to advance their true agenda. See note 15The religion of Islam was ordered to be spread by the sword. Examples of these actions include Muhammad's massacres of the Jewish tribes of Medina. Later on in Islamic history Islam was spread by violence such as the conquering of Israel and Constantinople by force. The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
It amazes me how little people know Islam. It's violent - always has been, always will be.
NOTES.· .http://conservativepapers.com/news/2012/01/23/muslim-children-training-to-be-suicide-bombers-mothers-proud/#.U72mQ_wg_cc Show me Jewish mothers who advocate mass suicide bombing by their sons.· 2. http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3811/abbas-honors-terroristmhttp://www.israelvideonetwork.com/this-is-the-president-of-the-palestinian-authority-praising-jew-murderers· 3. http://www.timesofisrael.com/moderate-fatah-joins-hamas-and-islamic-jihad-in-missile-launches/ Has Israel made a unity government with a party advocating murder of all Muslims?· 4. territories http://pamelageller.com/2014/07/hamas-killers-heard-cheering-singing-full-recording-teens-emergency-call.html/· http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/07/10/hamas-human-shield-war-gaza-israel-missiles/ They want their own civilians to die http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/182741#.U7_q0PldWXy· http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2014/08/03/an-absolutely-horrifying-story-from-inside-gaza/· VS Prior to striking a building in the Gaza Strip, the IDF warns its inhabitants using a procedure called "Knock on the roof," in which forces fire a small mortar at the target to indicate the imminent attack and signal those inside to flee before hitting it with full force.· Show me Israelis using human shields· 9. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel niot true th other way around· Show me IDF sending indiscriminate missiles at Gaza. Use schools, hospitals and mosques to hide missiles and shoot them. WAR CRIMES http://www.timesofisrael.com/20-missiles-found-in-un-run-school-in-gaza/#.U8hDly-byPk.gmail - http://shoebat.com/2015/03/20/major-member-of-hamas-takes-young-boys-and-sodomizes-them-and-then-tells-them-that-to-be-sodomized-is-to-follow-islam-more-proof-that-islam-is-a-homosexual-religion/
Anybody who is in a hurry to establish a Palestinian State cannot care about Israeli security. They may as well be saying that they side with the Palestinians whose stated goal is the destruction and dissolution of the State of Israel. The Palestinians don't have a unified government, don't have a viable economy -- they don't even have a cohesive identity apart from their chosen identity as professional victims and terrorists against Jews and Israelis. Giving the Arabs land for peace never worked before, not remotely, therefor the people that espouse a two state solution are being duplicitous at best. Peace is supposed to offer security for both sides. That won't happen with a two state solution. Not in what's left of my lifetime. And the real onus is on the Palestinians. They don't really want peace. Just like they rejected partition in 1948. Even though they got the lions share. And they rejected three comprehensive peace proposals. Who can blame Netanyahu for his honesty and foresight. That's his job as a leader, and the people of Israel, in their hard nosed, pragmatic wisdom, voted for the best man for the job.
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