Wednesday, January 18, 2017

Israel does not “occupy” anyone else’s land. Peace not possible with opposition that just wants you dead and gone

The real core of this conflict between us and the Palestinians is not this or that settlement ... it’s the persistent and enduring refusal to recognize a Jewish state in any boundary.'
brief brief on the "conflict".
Israel does not “occupy” anyone else’s land. Peace not possible with opposition that just wants you dead and gone. https://www.facebook.com/JonathanGinsb/videos/10154617829220837/
a. Read the Bible. Jewish land for 4000 years
b. Jews bought most of land it occupies and won the rest in wars others started. Israel has right to exist by international law. Best case of any nation in the world. Israel has legal right to West Bank https://www.dreuz.info/2017/01/13/israel-is-the-legal-occupant-of-the-west-bank-says-the-court-of-appeal-of-versailles-france/ “Palestinians never said boo when Jordan controlled it illegally from 1948-67.
c. So called Palestinians are phony, made up people that never existed before 1900, most have no historic connection to land but are descendants of carpetbaggers who came when Zionist greened up area
d. Israel has tried numerous times to allow another state between Jordan river and Mediterranean alongside Jewish state, but Palestinians have no interest. They spurned offers and started killing Jews. They want Israel gone and Jews dead. How can anyone make peace with terrorists?
e. Hamas and Fatah are = to Isis, Alquida, Hezbollah, Iran, +60 other Islamo terror organizations. just different PR and tactics. All Islamic based terror groups
f. There are millions of refugees in the world, including 800,000 Jews from Arab lands expelled with no compensation, walking around with keys in the pockets from their homes too but every opther refugee, except “Palestinians” have moved on. As Prof. Dershowitz says to them “get over it”. Why are you clinging to this refugee status for 70 years?
g. Peace CANNOT work with an entity that simply wants you destroyed. Show me ANY evidence that Palestinians will EVER accept a plan that puts them side-by-side a Jewish state permanently. None can exist. Anything else is DELUSIONAL. Jordan is ALREADY a Palestinian state.
FACTS: 1. JORDAN is 2/3rds historic Palestine, which was named tyrannically 2000 years ago by Roman rulers of JEWISH Judea. 2. 2/3rds Jordanians are Palestinians. 3, Jordan is a made up country, begun in 1946. 4. Jordan ILLEGALLY seized West Bank in war of 48. 5. Jordanian monarchy are carbetbagging family from Saudi Arabia. HENCE: Jordan=Palestine. Why should there be 2 Palestinian states??? terrorists.

n series of interviews, Netanyahu outlines vision of peace
'Peace requires that the Palestinians finally accept the Jewish state and give up their ideas and fantasies of destroying it.'

'The real core of this conflict between us and the Palestinians is not this or that settlement ... it’s the persistent and enduring refusal to recognize a Jewish state in any boundary.'

If you are so sure that “Palestine , the country, goes back through most of recorded history,” I expect you to be able to answer a few basic questions about that country of Palestine :
1) When was it founded and by whom?
2) What were its borders?
3) What was its capital?
4) What were its major cities?
5) What constituted the basis of its economy?
6) What was its form of government?
7) Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
8) Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
9) What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
10) What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
11) What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date.
And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?
You are lamenting the “low sinking” of a “once proud” nation. Please tell me, when exactly was that “nation” proud and what was it so proud of?
And here is the least sarcastic question of all: If the people you mistakenly call “Palestinians” are anything but generic Arabs collected from all over — or thrown out of — the Arab world, if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, why did they never try to become independent until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War?
I hope you avoid the temptation to trace the modern day “Palestinians” to the Biblical Philistines: substituting etymology for history won’t work here.
The truth should be obvious to everyone who wants to know it. Arab countries have never abandoned the dream of destroying Israel ; they still cherish it today. Having time and again failed to achieve their evil goal with military means, they decided to fight Israel by proxy. For that purpose, they created a terrorist organization, cynically called it “the Palestinian people” and installed it in Gaza , Judea, and Samaria . How else can you explain the refusal by Jordan and Egypt to unconditionally accept back the “West Bank” and Gaza , respectively?
The fact is, Arabs populating Gaza, Judea, and Samaria have much less claim to nationhood than that Indian tribe that successfully emerged in Connecticut with the purpose of starting a tax-exempt casino: at least that tribe had a constructive goal that motivated them. The so-called “Palestinians” have only one motivation: the destruction of Israel , and in my book that is not sufficient to consider them a nation” — or anything else except what they really are: a terrorist organization that will one day be dismantled.
In fact, there is only one way to achieve peace in the Middle East . Arab countries must acknowledge and accept their defeat in their war against Israel and, as the losing side should, pay Israel reparations for the more than 50 years of devastation they have visited on it. The most appropriate form of such reparations would be the removal of their terrorist organization from the land of Israel and accepting Israel ‘s ancient sovereignty over Gaza , Judea, and Samaria.

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